Give credit where credit is due, In reply to gearfest article

stunnin750 doesn't have a girlfriend i guess. outrageous post count.

all are always welcome to post away.  

Youre right, I dont need anyone else to speak for me, and im not trying to speak for any other girls or guys at that.  I do think they would agree with me though. I agree with you about the bias thing because there were male riders that werent recognized either. So Im not saying that SSB is sexist. Like I said before I could care less wether the mag mentioned my name or not, although it would be nice. I definately dont want to beg anyone to have my name mentioned in a mag or have to fight for it.  But I do feel, sarcasm or not, he should have handled the situation better.  Doesnt sound like sarcasm when all you say is "Get over it guy, seriously."  The main point of Joels comment, i think, was just to have some recognition for the riders that competed. Big comp or not.  Its nice, ya know.  First, second, or third.
Kelly  

all right. i like that. now everybody is getting along. and i do have a girlfriend but we have a long distance relationship since i am stationed in alaska. Her name is Suzy. hahaha jk....suzy. like suzuki...anywayz. i have plenty of time on my hands cause i'm in the army and where i'm stationed the average temp this winter is about -10. how much training can you do in cold like that, much les riding? so yeah i have ALOT of free time on my hands during the week where all i do is surf the web for bike related stuff.

but yeah. i'm just really big into streetbikes and it's kinda my passion/obsession. and all those posts? from the last contest for the helmet.

anyways. i'm glad we're all getting along now and i wasn't angry at anybody but the roadqueen lady for the bias comment. But I didn't verbally attack anybody too harshly or degrade anybody. So, either way, i'm glad all is well and now we may potentially have a few more people visiting the website. good luck in future competition guys and if you make it big atleast i'll be able to say we had an argument once.  

i wish i could just link my response to the stunlife html. why is that not permited?

anyway...stuntlife.com  

from your post on Stuntlife it sounds like you haven't looked at the mag in some time.
There are actually very few stretched Hayabusas in there compared to the rest of the features that deal with sportbikes and aftermarket mods in general.
We do cover all major stunt events and we do rider features pretty frequently as well (Bill D, Kane, etc to name a couple).
Not sure what more you'd like covered about stunting...?  

1- Great logic to the guy who thinks people should somehow be here to "speak for themselves" BEFORE the original poster even starts the topic? Now that it exists, these people ARE finding, reading & following the thread, even posting & speaking up for themselves. Only of course to then have you complain again that they were not here before this thread. Nothing is ever good enough for some ignorant idiots I guess. And I sure hope you never have nor ever will make a post expressing a concern or mentioning an observation you have made should it so much as give another's name as an example. Would you have us all be as concerned & criticizing as you are of others posts, and check all of yours for hypocrisy while we are at it? But we have better hobbies to spend our time on than such immature e-ganstaggery. Like riding. Pardon anyone else for striving to push these motorsports forward with more than mere forum posts. What have you done lately to contribute? Ooh, a high post count? Somebody get this man a trophy, he's a hero.  

2- Tandem still not a mainstream event eh? Hm. I take it media coverage is apparently the judge of that, as it is what seems to deem & determine whether something is considered mainstream or not, not the event holders. By that reasoning, if stoppie event for example were to be rarely mentioned, it then loses the impression of being mainstream too. What am I saying? YOU have the power. Use it for good & help the sport if you care to. But observing both actions & words, I'm guessing not.
Tandem has only been around for just nearly as long as solo stunting has, with determined riders who travel the country & globe, seriously training, performing & competing as much as any. If it were truly deserving of such rebuff, it would not consistently be a feature of so many stunt events across the nation & world. It would not be the event that so many of the attending families & other spectators readily state is the most entertaining to them. So why don't you let the people & the event holders be the judge of what is worthy for space & time in this sport. So sad to see that "mainstream" or the angle of coverage of any sort for that matter is clearly too often a matter of personal opinion expressed through the power of media, and it is sadder still when that affects the content of a magazine that now has confirmed first hand, clearly, blatantly & bluntly that it decidedly disregards a consistent, & growing, facet of the sport.
Speaking of growing sports, although not YET mainstream by whatever standards SSB utilizes, the emergence of some all female competition was certainly noteworthy for its long awaited, much anticipated groundbreaking existence. Great coverage on that aspect. Disappointing work there at the least, possibly even inept.
I'm also concerned by the claim that there wasn't room left over after the "mainstream" events were covered. Really, an adept magazine staff should be capable of fitting a mere sentence or two into an article to give it more thorough & accurate coverage. Without thorough & accurate coverage, the entire article is the waste of space. Funny too how SSB was certainly capable of it in years prior under former helm holders... I have issues on hand from back in the days I still felt the magazine was worthy of my money more than the others available at the time--- shall I scan & post for you the articles, photos, etc showing SSB previously had no difficulty giving good mention & acknowledgment to myself and any other tandem teams that managed to place in the top 3 positions? And to the credit of this seasons competitors, they have accelerated the sport to even far more advanced & entertaining a level than it was then at just a couple years ago! How then are they suddenly not worthy of at least the same exposure? Add to that the fact that there are many more numbers of notable teams competing right now, making for fiercer, more extreme competition, and you have all the more reason to give a hat tip to those that successfully fought their way to a much hard earned win. Although the days of default wins are fading fast, of course there are still fewer competitors in the tandem category than others... So what? It is about time ignorant egos are put aside to concede that that is truly because at today's competition level it is becoming more & MORE challenging & MORE dangerous than being the sole individual on the machine. Otherwise everyone would be doing it, certainly many more. So to ignore these events in the freestyle stuntriding competitions is truly unscrupulously negligent at best, if not a snubbish slap in the face.

Overall, way to perpetuate ignorance through lack of accurate & thorough coverage. Perhaps someday SSB may realize in the end it has cost them more subscriptions than gained them. But what do they care? It's the advertisers, not subscribers, that make the mag profitable right? Well us potential readers are who those advertisers want to reach. I know you know all this Publishing 101 stuff for yourself, but I wonder if you know how many companies choose NOT to advertise with SSB & the catalog it has become because their success comes from a market the magazine is losing daily.

At the very least, I hope you can realize you are mistaken, that this isn't about somebody saying "I just wanna see my name in print!" but about a rapidly advancing extreme motorsport and its facets getting the proper recognition, acknowledgment, & accurate coverage a truly respectable publication would deliver. All we ask is please, get with the times, & keep up with them. It's what any good magazine would do.  
Valeska
It Takes 2 Freestyle

valeska: that's one hell of a reply from someone who clearly doesn't read SSB other than the quick "flip-through" at the store to see how much stunting is covered.
if you did analyze the mag's overall message and content there really wouldn't be any question here about the mag's integrity and how it covers these events.

as far as your last paragraph goes, the person who started this thread openly admitted he wanted his name mentioned solely so he could get sponsorships/money.
SSB is the ONLY mainstream motorcycle mag to cover stunting and stunt riders (hell, we sponsor Brian Bubash!).
so, according to your assessment, Cycle World, Motorcyclist, Sport Rider, etc etc aren't respectable publications because they don't cover this "rapidly advancing extreme motorsport?" not sure how you can quantify your opinion on stunting here either...
just because you are solely interested in one niche aspect of sportbiking doesn't mean that the average SSB reader is.  

Dave, I said "that it helps when getting sponsors and contingency"
and you say solely?

Kepp putting word in my mouth. But isnt that what editors are good at?

And to say that SSB is the only Mainstream mag.?

May want to take a look at 2 wheel tuner,streetfighters and a couple others. Go take a look at a book store  where there are 10 to 1  ssb mag left on the shelf compared to other magazines. Your magazine is the same as every other. Doing review articles . But hey, keep making that money .

You guys sponsor bubash? I dont see any stickers or even listed as a sponsor on his web site. But im sure you wouldnt lie about that

Good luck to you and SSB.  

putting words in your mouth? you posted it, not me.

yes, we sponsor bubash. you'll see his bike at Stunt Wars (which we also sponsor FYI).  

Bubash, good rider, always on the podium


Does SSB want to sponsor a dragrace/stuntcomp/car audio show/stereo comp?  My dec 5 Hurricane Alley drag race season finals, was snowed out and moved to 2-20-2010 ?

Im also working on a race team with daytonasportbikes forum for the CCS race in daytona? want to be a part of that too? http://daytonasportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25556

Im also working on a world record attempt for this bikeweek, i suggest bringing your bike or have one here.  I'm not posting complete details yet till i have a written contract for the nascar track usage,

*** at this rate I might as well try and sell you on some viagra or cialis while im at it, geesh . . .lol  
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i'm so glad i'm out of this one now, cause seriously, nobody is reading anybody's posts like they are written anymore. you are misquoting and dogging each other. give it a rest. i'm sorry i helped blow this one up.  

I say dave and joel have a knife fight at stuntwars to settle it.  
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idk, they're both pretty big guys, there would be alot of blood. using bike chains and sprockets would atleast stick to the theme  

he's got jesus on his side so i'd be doomed.  

hahaha dave, look at the number of your posts when you said that...coincidence?